It’s been some time
It’s been a while since I last posted as a lot of stuff is going in my life. My wife and I were blessed to purchase a new home and needless to say, it’s taken up quite a bit of my time. I’m trying to get back into playing Warmachine and Hordes as the LGS near my home is doing quite well and it looks like it’s going to be in business for some good time. It has a much better location than it did before and it’s now only a 25 minute drive from my house as opposed to an hour.
With the hopes of playing more games, comes to the responsibility to paint some more. I really don’t like to play with unfinished models but let’s face it, almost everyone has unfinished models here and there. I still have a Paladin of the Wall that I bought some three years ago that’s only primed. I’m such a slacker I know.
Coming up this October is a chance for the SoMD Baythralls to participate in the Mid-Atlantic Team Tournament. So far, three of us have committed to it and there’s a chance to win a fully painted Retribution army. One of the requirements to be in the running for the Ret Army is to have yours fully painted, both lists. My main lack of painted models is my infantry and solos.
Thankfully, this past No Quarter has a good article on how to build and paint a 100 point army. It’s really good for Steamroller tournaments as it suggests using two warcasters and to start at 25 points w/ each one, incorporating models that both casters would use. I won’t be building a 100 point army as I’m aiming for the 50 point size but the principle still applies. Instead of working my way up from 25 to 50, I’m just going to post the first of my two 50 point lists. I’m definitely using Severius as my primary caster but I’m unsure who I’m going to use as my alternative. This list is definitely tentative as some models my change. Suggestions welcome.
Severius
*Reckoner
*Revenger
*Crusader
*Hierophant
Min Choir
Sunburst
Deliverers min unit
Cinerators max unit
Rhoven and Honor Guard
Vilmon
Reclaimer Solo
Vassal
Vassal Mechanik
Allegiant
Rhupert
I have no advanced deployment and that sort of worries me. The thing is, I doubt I’ll have the time to paint either Errants or Idrians but the Daughters come to mind. I would drop the unit of Deliverers and go w/ Daughters if my painting goes well. Speaking of painting…off I go.
Tie goes to the Testament
The votes have come in and it’s a tie between the Testament of Menoth and Feora – Protector of the Flame. Seeing how I spent the majority of last night putting together Cinerators, the tie goes to the Testament. I want to thank all the folks that voted.
I modified the list a little and took out the TFG w/ UA and replaced them with a minimal unit of Deliverers and a Sunburst Crew. It really came down to playability. The last time I played a troop heavy army, I felt I had too many melee guys and didn’t get back what I invested in them. This time around, I feel I have a good mix of melee and ranged attacks.
It also turns out that my original Testament list was way over 50 pts. Whoops. Here’s the final one and its 50 points.
The Testament of Menoth
*Guardian
*Reckoner
Hierophant|
Vassal
Vilmon
Rhupert
Rhoven
Choir – min
Sunburst
Deliverers
Bastions – max
Cinerators – max
A battle report is to come this weekend.
Pick a List
This Tuesday is a rare opportunity for me to play a game at the LGS. I’m going to be playing against Ron (xcom on the boards) and its a 50 pt match. He’s prepping for a 50 pt Steamroller tourney this Saturday in Virginia and wanted a prep run.
Its been a while since my last match, and I thought it would be a good idea to play a caster I rarely or if ever use. Four of them come to mind, Grand Scrutator Severius, The Testament of Menoth, Grand Exemplar Kreoss, and Feora – Protector of the Flame.
Out of all of the casters listed above, I’ve played Severius the most, which isn’t saying a whole lot considering its roughly 4-5 games. Feora2 I’ve played once against my friend Barrett and both the Testament of Menoth and Grand Exemplar Kreoss, I’ve never used.
I’m posting four 50 pt lists in hopes of people voting on which one I should take. Keep in mind my model count is average and I don’t have Knights Exemplar, Zealots, or any Protectorate AD unit. Shame on me I know, no Zealots or KE, what kind of Menite am I.
Feora, Protector of the Flame
*Repenter
*Crusader
*Guardian
*Vanquisher
Hierophant
Choir – max
Deliverer Sunburst Crew
TFG – max with UA
Cleansers – max
Reclaimer
Vassal
Vassal Mechanik
Grand Exemplar Kreoss
*Repenter
*Guardian
*Reckoner
Hierophant
Choir – min
Deliverer Sunburst Crew
Bastions – max
TFG – max with UA
Rhoven & Honour Guard
Vilmon
Paladin
Gorman
Rhupert
Vassal
Kell Bailoch
Testament of Menoth
*Guardian
*Reckoner
Hierophant
Choir – max
Bastions – max
Cinerators – max
TFG – max w/ UA
Rhoven & Honour Guard
Vilmon
Paladin
Rhuphert
Vassal
Grand Scrutator Severius
*Revenger
*Reckoner
*Vanquisher
Hierophant
Choir – max
Deliverer Sunburst Crew
Deliverers – min
Cinerators – max
Rhoven & Honour Guard
Reclaimer
Rhupert
Vilmon
Vassal
There you have it, all four lists filled with pure win 🙂 The one catch is the Cinerators, I’m not sure if they’ll arrive by Tuesday. If they don’t, I’ll swap them out in the Testament list and just proxy them with Bastions in the Severius list.
Comments welcome.
In a Rut
Since the MK II final stat cards have been released, I’ve been creating lists for most of the casters I have. When doing so, I try to think about the models I have and then some models I don’t have. This way, I can proxy the ones I don’t have in a game and see if I should buy them.
The recent problem I’ve come up with is, I’m including the same models over and over again. For instance, the only Exemplar unit I have is Rhoven and I’m not sure he counts because his bodyguards are Exemplar. I rarely ever think about putting Exemplars in a list, save for Bastions. When I do put them in, its normally with Kreoss, Severius, or the High Reclaimer.
My normal list goes sort of like this, Caster, 1 Vanquisher (shocker I know), another heavy, possible Devout, and then choir, vassal, TFG w/ UA, and an assortment of solos. That’s pretty much it. The caster I choose normally dictates the jacks I take with them, that’s probably true for most players but its nice to mix it up some.
In writing this, I think I found out my problem. I need more units, specifically all the Exemplar ones, Idrians, Daughters, and possibly Croe’s Cutthroats. This should give me more variety and a different play style than the one I’m use. Which is a slow methodical, Menoth brick, walking up the field waiting the lay the hurt.
The night before I know I’m going to play, I sit down and make 2 lists. This helps me and my opponent because normally I would do it right before the game. Sometimes it added another 15-20 minutes, just ask Barrett. This way, I know what models I need and it speeds up set up time considerably. There’s a chance of me getting in a game this Saturday and if I do, I plan to try out this 50 pt Amon list. Its definitely a change of pace and hopefully it’ll be a lot of fun to play.
Amon 50 pts
*Devout
*Castigator
*Crusader
*Crusader
Hierophant
Vassal
Choir – full unit
Idrians – full unit w/ UA
Croe’s Cutthroats – min unit
Kell Bailoch
Gorman
Heavy Dosage of Fire
Moving forward in our MK II campaign, CptCalvinus and I are going to be playing a series of 35 PC games with each of our remaining casters. This is going to give us a chance to try out some oldies but goodies and some new ones as well. Don’t tell the Cpt. but I plan on picking up one epic Feora in the next week or two. And with her comes a heavy dosage of hunka hunka burning love. It will also roast me some swans. I love it already…
I’ve constructed a nice list that incorporates models I have and for the most part painted, save for eFeora.
Epic Feora 35 PC
*Guardian – bonded
*Vanquisher
*Repenter
Choir – maxed
TFG – maxed with UA
Cleansers – min
Vassal
Reclaimer
I might swap out the Cleansers for a couple more support pieces but I’m trying to stick to the whole fire theme. The basic strategy for this list to set things on fire. In all seriousness, I think I would have to play a rather aggressive style and try to get Feora in the mix. The Guardian would most likely get either Ignite or Escort. Both are great spells and I would have to decide when I see my opponents layout.
I’m torn on who I would give Escort to, all three are viable candidates for it but I’m leaning towards the Vanquisher. This way it would have a 14′ threat range and possibly longer with the Vassal. Just a FYI, I don’t have a Reedemer and don’t plan on picking one up soon.
I’m looking forward to trying out eFeora as one of my new warcasters because she brings a different playstyle than the other ones I’ve been using. Plus, her model is pretty awesome as well. I just have to buy her now.
High Reclaimer
It turns out that I never thought once about using the High Reclaimer as a Menoth player. After a year and a half of playing and with Bastions on the way, I thought to myself “man, what a great time to pick up the High Reclaimer”. Then I thought, I have a lot of canon fodder troops that would go well with him, Cleansers, Deliverers, and to a lesser extent, TFG.
This is the one of the cool play styles of Menoth, throw sub-par troops to their death and revive later on or just blow them up and then revive them. Either way works for me.
With the upcoming field test of MKII, CptCalvinus and I are going to run a escalation style campaign of Menoth vs Cynar. The format is similar to the Paint and Play campaign in No Quarter and Lost Hemisphere’s Warmahordes challenge, but it differs in one way. We’re going to play two games at every point level, using the old rules in the first game and the new rules in the second. I’m pretty certain a lot of other people are going to be doing this and I find its a great way to see some of the differences in the game.
With that being said, I finished painting my High Reclaimer and will be using him during the escalation campaign. I’ll dive into why I’m using him and not my favorite monk later on…
Here’s the 350 list that he’s leading in the MK II Escalation Campaign. First game will hopefully start this Tuesday using the current ruleset.
High Reclaimer 347/350 VPs: 15
*Hierophant
Cleansers x 6
Temple Flameguard x8 with UA
Visgoth Rhoven and his Bodyguard
Gorman di Wulfe
Ruphert, Piper of Menoth
Wrack
The basic strategy is to throw as much smoke as possible and hope I can get into melee pretty quick. I’m anxious to see if the new MK II rules will allow enough free points for a Devout or Revenger. Only time will tell.